{"id":36,"date":"2015-03-30T08:01:19","date_gmt":"2015-03-30T07:01:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/?p=36"},"modified":"2015-08-24T14:23:22","modified_gmt":"2015-08-24T13:23:22","slug":"bug-urbain-a-saint-germain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/2015\/03\/bug-urbain-a-saint-germain\/","title":{"rendered":"Bug urbain \u00e0 Saint-Germain"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>O\u00f9 l\u2019on voit que suivre un panneau pose un probl\u00e8me l\u00e9gal, dont la solution consiste \u00e0 en ignorer un autre.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Si vous suivez ce panneau indicateur cyclable Boulevard Saint-Germain et tournez \u00e0 droite au prochain croisement pour aller aux Thermes de Cluny&#8230;<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-457\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-533x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 054_DxO\" width=\"533\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-533x800.jpg 533w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-80x120.jpg 80w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-160x240.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-1140x1710.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO-552x828.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-054_DxO.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 533px) 100vw, 533px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;vous prendrez un PV pour circulation sur voie de bus interdite.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-458\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-533x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 065_DxO\" width=\"533\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-533x800.jpg 533w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-80x120.jpg 80w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-160x240.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-1140x1710.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO-552x828.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-065_DxO.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 533px) 100vw, 533px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Explication :<\/p>\n<p>Tout d\u2019abord, voici le chemin l\u00e9gal pour se rendre \u00e0 v\u00e9lo du Boulevard Saint Germain au Mus\u00e9e de Cluny (fl\u00e8ches en bleu plein) :<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-464\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow.png\" alt=\"Capturenow\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow.png 600w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-160x107.png 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-320x213.png 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-552x368.png 552w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Il faut en fait tourner \u00e0 droite avant le panneau :<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-459\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 074_DxO\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-1200x800.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-320x213.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-1140x760.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO-552x368.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-074_DxO.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Puis tourner \u00e0 gauche dans la petite Rue Pierre Sarrazin :<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-460\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 078_DxO\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-1200x800.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-320x213.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-1140x760.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO-552x368.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-078_DxO.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Au bout, il faut passer outre (!) le panneau obligeant \u00e0 descendre le Boulevard Saint-Michel, et tourner \u00e0 droite.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-455\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"160415 125_DxO\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-1200x800.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-320x213.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-1140x760.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO-552x368.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/160415-125_DxO.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Pour enfin arriver dans la voie de bus du Boulevard Saint-Michel \u00e0 un moment o\u00f9 elle est autoris\u00e9e aux v\u00e9los, m\u00eame si la voie de bus n\u2019est pas \u00e9largie.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-461\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 103_DxO\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-1200x800.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-320x213.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-1140x760.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO-552x368.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-103_DxO.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Ensuite, le p\u00e9riple continue comme indiqu\u00e9 sur le plan.<\/p>\n<p>En revanche, si on suit le premier panneau, on s\u2019attend \u00e0 faire un des deux trajets en pointill\u00e9s :<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-464\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow.png\" alt=\"Capturenow\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow.png 600w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-160x107.png 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-320x213.png 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capturenow-552x368.png 552w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure class=\"tmblr-full\"><\/figure>\n<p>Or, ces deux pointill\u00e9s rouges sont interdits aux v\u00e9los dans la direction indiqu\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-462\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-1200x800.jpg\" alt=\"280315 142_DxO\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-1200x800.jpg 1200w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-320x213.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-1140x760.jpg 1140w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO-552x368.jpg 552w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/280315-142_DxO.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>La voie de bus est d\u2019ailleurs en fait interdite aux v\u00e9los de la place Saint-Michel jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la Rue Pierre Sarrazin, bien que la largeur soit identique \u00e0 celle de la partie autoris\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>Alors que s\u2019est-il pass\u00e9 ? Eh bien, Street View nous apprend que c\u2019est seulement entre 2008 et 2010 que cette section de voie de bus est devenue interdite aux v\u00e9los. En 2008, on pouvait venir du Pont Saint-Michel \u00e0 v\u00e9lo et faire toute la ligne droite jusqu\u2019\u00e0 Luxembourg.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-463\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capture2008.png\" alt=\"Capture2008\" width=\"948\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capture2008.png 948w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capture2008-160x95.png 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capture2008-320x189.png 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Capture2008-552x326.png 552w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 948px) 100vw, 948px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Est-ce \u00e0 cause de l\u2019\u00e9troitesse de la voie de bus, par principe ? Est-ce \u00e0 cause de plaintes de chauffeur de bus sur les ralentissements ? Est-ce \u00e0 cause d\u2019un accident ? Je ne sais pas.<\/p>\n<p>Mais cette interdiction s\u2019est arr\u00eat\u00e9e Rue Pierre Sarrazin. Sinon, en venant du Boulevard Saint-Germain, c\u2019est jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la Rue Saint Jacques qu\u2019il aurait fallu aller pour ensuite filer vers le Sud de Paris <i>: <\/i>la Rue de l\u2019Ecole de M\u00e9decine est un sens unique tr\u00e8s \u00e9troit avec un certain trafic, et donc sans contre-sens cyclable malgr\u00e9 la zone 20.<\/p>\n<p>L\u2019interdiction n\u2019a donc pas \u00e9t\u00e9 totale pour \u00e9viter d\u2019obtenir un d\u00e9tour assez \u00e9norme, avec un bon d\u00e9nivel\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Bref, la signalisation au sol a \u00e9volu\u00e9 de fa\u00e7on pas tr\u00e8s intuitive, mais les panneaux sont rest\u00e9s tels quels :<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Il ne faut pas tenir compte du panneau indicateur cyclable Boulevard Saint-Germain (qui envoie sur une voie interdite apr\u00e8s la pose du panneau)<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Il faut ne pas respecter le panneau \u201cobligation de tourner \u00e0 gauche\u201d Rue Pierre Sarrazin (sur lequel est dirig\u00e9 maintenant le flux des cyclistes, il y manque donc clairement un panneau \u201csauf v\u00e9los\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>Un dernier mot : quand j\u2019\u00e9cris que vous pouvez vous prendre un PV sur la voie de bus interdite, ce n\u2019est pas une vue de l\u2019esprit. Comme c\u2019est un\u00a0\u201cpi\u00e8ge\u201d tentant pour les cyclistes vue la configuration des lieux (une courte distance sans voitures pour aller tout droit vers le Sud), c\u2019est un de ces lieux id\u00e9aux pour faire du chiffre\u2026<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-465\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/catched.jpg\" alt=\"catched\" width=\"1000\" height=\"668\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/catched.jpg 1000w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/catched-160x107.jpg 160w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/catched-320x214.jpg 320w, http:\/\/www.sortirdeparisavelo.fr\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/catched-552x369.jpg 552w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/p>\n<figure><\/figure>\n<p>Il s\u2019agit bien de cyclistes 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